In this episode, we explore the concept of warm collaboration. In Nora Bateson and Mamphela Ramphele's article "Finding a Way," warm collaboration and warm data are important parts of an approach to environmental and social change centered in relationship. These concepts offer a way of seeing the world that draws on complexity, instead of seeking to simplify. They show us a way of thinking in which people are not numbers and a way of working together in which people are not roles.